Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:55:57 +0100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Norman Lynagh <lynagh at dial.pipex.com> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Extreme heat in China X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 4.00 <gc229MYxwkPReg4qpJRTikMJp0> Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com In message <200006140158.LAA21528 at munya.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au>, Blair Trewin <blair at earthsci.unimelb.edu.au> writes >Noticed that it reached 40 in Beijing yesterday, about 10 degrees >above average for this time of year and close to record territory >(I seem to recall - and a Chinese colleague agrees - that their >all-time record high is somewhere around 41 or 42). Very low >humidity, too (about 10%), and a huge diurnal range by their >standards (minimum was 18, whereas when it was getting close to 40 >last summer, the mins were in the high 20s). > >I've also seen press reports about drought and sandstorms, but haven't >seen any numbers as yet to back this up. > >Blair Trewin There are certainly some funny things going on. A mobile low pressure centre deepened to 966 mb yesterday as is tracked NE'wards between Scotland and Iceland. This is the lowest pressure on record in the area in June. The low produced very strong winds with many places in north and west Scotland seeing gusts in excess of 50 knots. The biggest wind I saw reported was a mean of 69 knots gusting to 100 knots at the automatic weather station on the island of North Rona off NW Scotland. This is supposed to be summer! Norman. -- Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy Tel: +44 (0)1494 870220 Chalfont St. Giles E-Mail: lynagh at dial.pipex.com Buckinghamshire England +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley at mail.cobweb.com.au Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 08:37:51 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust <paisley at cobweb.com.au> Subject: Re: aus-wx: AMOS Meeting - Warm-Season Supercells Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >The program includes announcements, the current weather situation and >forecasts for the week. The main seminar will be on "Warm-Season Supercell >Thunderstorms in Australia", by Dr. Andrew Treloar (full details on next >page). Jimmy Any chance for us non Sydney residents to find the transcript of this seminar after it's delivered? I assume it will appear somewhere, if not on the web, then in a journal somewhere. It sounds important. Phil 'Paisley' Bagust paisley at cobweb.com.au http://www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin <blair at earthsci.unimelb.edu.au> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Low temps in SE Australia this morning To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 10:49:07 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > >Cooma Airport (-9.9) narrowly missed out on scoring the first non- > >alpine -10 of the winter. Sub-zero minima were common in NSW, Victoria > >and SA, -5 at Yunta being a notable observation - this appears to be > >a very cold site indeed and might well be the site of SA's first -10 > >if there is ever a repeat of the 1976 cold spell. > > > As someone who had to camp out for a week just north of Yunta in the May > 1985 cold spell, I can attest to that Blair! > > What were the circumstances surrounding the 1976 event? > A strong (peaking at around 1038 hPa) high-pressure system, dominating most of the continent and centred near Adelaide for the best part of a week without moving more than a couple of hundred kilometres. This system brought very low minima to most of SA (except the coast from Adelaide southeastward) and the southern NT; Alice Springs also got its record low (-7.5) from this system. Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 10:54:57 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius <cyclone at flatrate.net.au> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: Australian Weather Mailing List <aussie-weather at world.std.com> Subject: aus-wx: Next QLD ASWA Meeting - July 1st Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Any interstate members in Brisbane, visitors or guests are most welcome to attend! As many of you are aware, the next QLD ASWA meeting will take place on July 1st, 2000. This will be a fairly important meeting, so it'll be good if most people can try and attend - especially if a vote is required to take place! If you cannot make this meeting, it is imperative that you put in your apologies before the 25th of June. I know that before you were able to put in your apologies up to the day of the meeting, and even after! But we need to know so that if a vote is required, we can send you the relative information to vote and have your say in the QLD branch of ASWA. John Woodbridge will be the feature presentation on reading and understanding computer model forecast maps! This will be a fantastic opportunity for those who aren't too sure about forecase models, or find them too daunting to come along and learn where to find them (on the net), how the read them, and how to use them in your forecasts. Forecasting can be a lot of fun, and is a great challenge, and computer models are a great way of learning how to forecast. Another presentation will also be conducted on the 1999 Janurary 25, Warwick-Oakey supercell, with photos and charts of the event. State representative voting, and instating/re-instating of state reps will take place at 10:30am. The meeting will take place at 10am, but will just be a time for casual discussion. The extra thirty minutes will be given to allow people who are running late to attend the meeting. Voting should not take too long, and if a vote is not neccessary, then next to no time! Other items on the agenda: - I'll discuss with Jeff C. from the BoM to see if they want to run a seminar again, and if so - a public, or a spotter seminar - I'll give some feedback on this. - Lightning tracker discussion - Quick AGM discussion - Information on membership renewals, new ASWA pricing structure after July 1st, 2000, and information regarding why this is taking place. - If anyone else would like something to be put on the agenda, please inform me! Please bring $3.50 for pizza and drinks (it depends on what the pizza hut prices do on July 1st, I believe they'll go up the full 10% - if they don't, then it'll only be $3, but bring that just in case...) Overview of meeting details: Date: Saturday, 1st of July 2000 Time: 10am, voting at 10:30am, rest of the meeting then follows Place: Unit 9/14 Argon St. Sumner. Cost: Meeting is free, but bring $3.50 for pizza and drinks after Feature Presentation: Reading and using forecast models, by John Woodbridge. If you could please email me at cyclone at flatrate.net.au or phone me on (07) 3390 4812 to say you're coming/give your apologies, that'd be much appreciated! We also need approximate numbers for seating arrangements. If you cannot make the meeting, please put your apologies in before Sunday, 25th of June so that voting information can be sent out to you on Monday. If you do not want to vote, then you can put your apologies in later, but we'd like everyone to have the opportunity to do so. Thanks for you time - hope to see you there! -- Anthony Cornelius Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 14 Kinsella St Belmont, Brisbane QLD, 4153 Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 10:44:04 -0700 From: Lindsay <writer at lisp.com.au> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Balmy Blue Mountains Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Blackheath: Thursday 11am. Currently 8 degrees (7.9) here and feeling very mild. Probably our warmest day, so far, (considering wind chill as well as temp) since the 25th of May. Lindsay Pearce +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" <jrw at pixelcom.net> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com> Subject: aus-wx: RE: NZ T'Storm Society --- Why not ASWA branch?? Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 11:50:02 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Gregg, Paul and all.. Perhaps a not totally silly suggestion.., why not have a NZ branch of ASWA, and perhaps ASWA can become the 'Australasian Severe Weather Association'. Obviously there are distance issues associated with NZ, but it is only approx 3 hrs flight time from Sydney cf 4 hours to Perth, Cairns or Darwin. But it may be that a single larger and hence stronger association can potentially deliver better member benefits and services to all. The ASWA site is testimony to this. Jimmy, Anthony, others, thoughts?? John >snip >I would be interested in being in an NZ Severe Weather Association, similar to >the the Aussie one. > A New Zealand Severe Weather Association would be good for NZ, an extension of my NZ Thunderstorm Soc. I wonder if people like Augie Auer, Jim Hickey would be interested as sponsors??? ie. TVNZ or TV3? Bob and I are keen to hear from other weather observers around New Zealand. I don't know about others members in the MetSoc. I could send an email to Tony Trewinnard of BlueSkies Weather or that guy that runs WeatherWorkshop??? Tony Trewinnard, an excellent forecaster, I think, is keen to do his own thing! Bob McDavitt, the so called Weather Ambassodor of MetService may know of a few contacts? Hey! Lets organize ??? The weather has been so boring lately until the recent weather 'snaps' Hope more follow! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" <jrw at pixelcom.net> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com> Subject: RE: aus-wx: Balmy Blue Mountains Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:07:00 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Mild!! Fair dinkum, you guys down there have some very strange ideas of mild. I went out last night at 12:30am to check the daily temps and rain gauge, seeing as there had been a smatter or two (but nothing measurable as it turned out), the thermo said 11.0C and even though I was rugged up in track suit, fluffies & a woolly with turned up collar, I fair near froze my balls off. John. >snip Subject: aus-wx: Balmy Blue Mountains Blackheath: Thursday 11am. Currently 8 degrees (7.9) here and feeling very mild. Probably our warmest day, so far, (considering wind chill as well as temp) since the 25th of May. Lindsay Pearce +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin <blair at earthsci.unimelb.edu.au> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Extreme heat in China To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:43:06 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > There are certainly some funny things going on. A mobile low pressure > centre deepened to 966 mb yesterday as is tracked NE'wards between > Scotland and Iceland. This is the lowest pressure on record in the area > in June. The low produced very strong winds with many places in north > and west Scotland seeing gusts in excess of 50 knots. The biggest wind I > saw reported was a mean of 69 knots gusting to 100 knots at the > automatic weather station on the island of North Rona off NW Scotland. > > This is supposed to be summer! > > Norman. > Saw the warnings for this system but hadn't previously seen any numbers. As you say, quite an impressive system for June, in a region where there does seem to be a lot of seasonality in low-pressure strength , unlike comparable latitudes in the Southern Hemisphere (at Macquarie Island, the distribution of lowest recorded pressure through the twelve months is essentially random; the lowest on record is in January, followed by October, September and June, with the 'highest lowest' in April). By the way, I checked the Beijing record high from two printed sources; it's 40.6 at the time of publication. There was a 41 last year (rounded) so that is probably the current record, meaning Tuesday's 40 would have just missed it. Looking at the table I was quite surprised by how low the extreme maxima are over most of China (similar to the eastern U.S, I guess); not many stations had been over 40 and the only stations over 43 were in the far west. Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin <blair at earthsci.unimelb.edu.au> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Balmy Blue Mountains To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:45:27 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Mild!! > > Fair dinkum, you guys down there have some very strange ideas of mild. > I went out last night at 12:30am to check the daily temps and > rain gauge, seeing as there had been a smatter or two (but nothing > measurable as it turned out), the thermo said 11.0C and even though > I was rugged up in track suit, fluffies & a woolly with turned up > collar, I fair near froze my balls off. > > John. > >snip > > Subject: aus-wx: Balmy Blue Mountains > > Blackheath: Thursday 11am. > > Currently 8 degrees (7.9) here and feeling very mild. Probably our > warmest day, so far, (considering wind chill as well as temp) since the > 25th of May. > > Lindsay Pearce > It's a matter of what you're used to. I once walked around in shirt- sleeves (and was still quite warm) in Winnipeg, Canada on an evening when it was +1, after having been in -20s and 30s for the preceding week.... Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin <blair at earthsci.unimelb.edu.au> Subject: aus-wx: Goulburn cracks the -10 barrier To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:48:15 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Goulburn Airport cracked the -10 barrier this morning with -10.2. Cooma was also a near miss with -9.6. Canberra had -7, and Tuggeranong -8.1. Charlottes Pass was again lowest in the country with -13.7, a bit higher than yesterday. Canberra's mean min for the month is now sitting on -3.2, and the (internal) 7-day forecast has it below 0 for most of the next week. Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:42:18 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius <cyclone at flatrate.net.au> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Next QLD ASWA Meeting - July 1st Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael - great to see! No doubt a long journey for you, (3hrs each way), and it's great that you come to nearly every meeting! I should also add, I have footage from both the Victorian Paraparap tornado (Jan 9 - 2000), and the Halls Gap tornado (27/01/97) to show as well. Those who came the video afternoon on the Gold Coast in May would have seen the Paraparap footage, but not the Halls Gap footage. Michael Bath wrote: > > I'll be there! > > MB > > ================================================================== > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges NSW http://australiasevereweather.com/ > Australia http://www.lightningphotography.com/ > Secretary ASWA Inc. http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > ================================================================== > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 14 Kinsella St Belmont, Brisbane QLD, 4153 Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:49:07 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius <cyclone at flatrate.net.au> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: RE: NZ T'Storm Society --- Why not ASWA branch?? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi John, The thought had popped into my head once or twice too :) No doubt it's up to our NZ counterparts whether they'd like to be a seperate identity or not though. One main advantage, would be that the larger an association is, we can give more benefits to members, and as well be seen as a more authorative association. We'll wait and see what our NZ friends say first... :) Anthony Cornelius John Woodbridge wrote: > > Hi Gregg, Paul and all.. > > Perhaps a not totally silly suggestion.., why not have a NZ branch of > ASWA, and perhaps ASWA can become the 'Australasian Severe Weather > Association'. > > Obviously there are distance issues associated with NZ, but it is only > approx 3 hrs flight time from Sydney cf 4 hours to Perth, Cairns > or Darwin. > > But it may be that a single larger and hence stronger association can > potentially deliver better member benefits and services to all. The > ASWA site is testimony to this. > > Jimmy, Anthony, others, thoughts?? > > John > >snip > > >I would be interested in being in an NZ Severe Weather Association, > similar to > >the the Aussie one. > > > A New Zealand Severe Weather Association would be good for NZ, an extension > of my NZ Thunderstorm Soc. > I wonder if people like Augie Auer, Jim Hickey would be interested as > sponsors??? > ie. TVNZ or TV3? > Bob and I are keen to hear from other weather observers around New Zealand. > I don't know about others members in the MetSoc. I could send an email to > Tony Trewinnard of BlueSkies Weather or that guy that runs > WeatherWorkshop??? > Tony Trewinnard, an excellent forecaster, I think, is keen to do his own > thing! > Bob McDavitt, the so called Weather Ambassodor of MetService may know of a > few contacts? > Hey! Lets organize ??? > The weather has been so boring lately until the recent weather 'snaps' > Hope more follow! > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 14 Kinsella St Belmont, Brisbane QLD, 4153 Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.36.248.18] From: "Kevin Phyland" <kjphyland at hotmail.com> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: New Pix Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:01:55 EST Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi every1, While cleaning out some old files I ran across some assorted pix I took years ago...Some nice uglies amongst them! http://www.fortunecity.com/greenfield/manchester/4/f/dec93.html Happy viewing! Kevin from Wycheproof. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin <blair at earthsci.unimelb.edu.au> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold in Queensland To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:12:50 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Hello Tony + List > > I remember seeing a news report about snow at Ayers Rock a few years ago. The television news piece showed amateur footage taken by a tourist. The snow looked more like sleet. The Musgrave Ranges (around 1300-1400m elevation) to its south just inside the SA border should be capable of receiving snow if there is enough moisture. > > The furthermost north in Queensland which recieves snow is an area in the Granite Belt which stretches from the NSW border to just south of Stanthorpe. Here the snow rarely settles for more than a few hours. > > > Michael > > > Hi Blair, > Do you or anyone else know what the furtherest north location of snowfall in > Aust.?has it ever snowed at the summits of say Bellenden Kerr or Bartle > Frere in north QLD?I know that it can get surprisingly cold up there > (1600-1700m,QLD highest peaks)even though they are in the tropics.I assume > this would have to be an overnight event with an eyewitness account,but it > would be interesting to know. The northern limit of snow in the July 1901 and July 1984 events was around the Bunya Mountains. Given that these stand as the two most exceptional snow events on the Darling Downs this century, I'd be surprised if any other event saw snow any further north than that. Lack of moisture is often the barrier further north, as the coast changes direction and a southerly therefore has a long overland trajectory before it gets to the coastal ranges; a SE flow is really needed for the moisture and it's hard to imagine a southeasterly being cold enough. Lack of moisture is also the usual barrier on the central Australian ranges (it certainly gets cold enough on the higher parts). The 1997 event was quite exceptional; the observer's notes for one day in July 1896 at Alice Springs also mention overnight snow, but as the minimum on that day was 4.8 this seems unlikely - possibly hail or sleet? - but not impossible. Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 16:08:17 -0700 From: Lindsay <writer at lisp.com.au> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Balmy Blue Mountains Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thursday 4:30pm Yes Blair and John, it is a matter of what you are used to and the last 2 weeks or more have been quite chilly. It just felt so warm this morning even though it briefly got close to zero earlier. It was soon up to 5 degrees and with the sun shining strongly as it does up here at altitude, if felt much warmer than that. I'm currently in a short sleeve shirt and its 9 now and I have no heater on in this back room. The sun feels so strong and bright in winter up here, at least at midday anyway. Doesn't last long though as it soons chills down by arvo. Put me in Darwin though, and I'd be sweating for sure! Lindsay Pearce Blair Trewin wrote: > > > > > Mild!! > > > > Fair dinkum, you guys down there have some very strange ideas of mild. > > I went out last night at 12:30am to check the daily temps and > > rain gauge, seeing as there had been a smatter or two (but nothing > > measurable as it turned out), the thermo said 11.0C and even though > > I was rugged up in track suit, fluffies & a woolly with turned up > > collar, I fair near froze my balls off. > > > > John. > > >snip > > > > Subject: aus-wx: Balmy Blue Mountains > > > > Blackheath: Thursday 11am. > > > > Currently 8 degrees (7.9) here and feeling very mild. Probably our > > warmest day, so far, (considering wind chill as well as temp) since the > > 25th of May. > > > > Lindsay Pearce > > > > It's a matter of what you're used to. I once walked around in shirt- > sleeves (and was still quite warm) in Winnipeg, Canada on an evening > when it was +1, after having been in -20s and 30s for the preceding > week.... > > Blair Trewin > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ben Tichborne" <tich at netaccess.co.nz> To: <aussie-weather-digest at world.std.com> Subject: aus-wx: Re: aussie-weather-digest V1 #612 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 21:10:20 +1200 Organization: Private X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > A New Zealand Severe Weather Association would be good for NZ, an extension > of my NZ Thunderstorm Soc. > I wonder if people like Augie Auer, Jim Hickey would be interested as > sponsors??? > ie. TVNZ or TV3? > Bob and I are keen to hear from other weather observers around New Zealand. > I don't know about others members in the MetSoc. I could send an email to > Tony Trewinnard of BlueSkies Weather or that guy that runs WeatherWorkshop??? > Tony Trewinnard, an excellent forecaster, I think, is keen to do his own > thing! > Bob McDavitt, the so called Weather Ambassodor of MetService may know of a > few contacts? > Hey! Lets organize ??? > The weather has been so boring lately until the recent weather 'snaps' > Hope more follow! > John Gaul > New Zealand Thunderstorm Scoiety Sounds like a great idea, so long as it encompasses all forms of severe weather - thunder, hail, tornadoes, snow, rainstorms, gails, etc , (and certainly NZ gets all forms of severe weather, often all at once!) plus has people all over the country, not just in the main centres. Speaking of severe weather, the recent cold snap was unusual in that the stormiest/ snowiest weather on Monday was in the interior of the South Island, even though strong, showery (with hail and sleet) southerlies also affected the east coast, but eased during the day. Normally in such a southerly flow, the interior would clear up before the weather even eased on the coast. It appears a small low pressure system within the southerlies pushed moist air further inland. The main low had moved well to the east. On Sunday heavy snowfalls were already affecting some inland South Island areas (especially Queenstown) in the southwesterly airflow. The North Island high country got a coating on Tuesday, when the top half of island was mostly fine and sunny, just like in Queensland during the late May cold outbreak. The cold air had dumped its icy load on the high country and had no more moisture left. Ben Tichborne Christchurch NZ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 21:33:00 +1200 From: Gregg J Ward <gregg.ward at xtra.co.nz> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: RE: NZ T'Storm Society --- Why not ASWA branch?? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com John, I think that it would be a good idea, regarding having an NZ branch of the ASWA. As you have rightly pointed out, being part of a larger organisation, would have its benefits. Gregg Ward John Woodbridge wrote: > Hi Gregg, Paul and all.. > > Perhaps a not totally silly suggestion.., why not have a NZ branch of > ASWA, and perhaps ASWA can become the 'Australasian Severe Weather > Association'. > > Obviously there are distance issues associated with NZ, but it is only > approx 3 hrs flight time from Sydney cf 4 hours to Perth, Cairns > or Darwin. > > But it may be that a single larger and hence stronger association can > potentially deliver better member benefits and services to all. The > ASWA site is testimony to this. > > Jimmy, Anthony, others, thoughts?? > > John > >snip > > >I would be interested in being in an NZ Severe Weather Association, > similar to > >the the Aussie one. > > > A New Zealand Severe Weather Association would be good for NZ, an extension > of my NZ Thunderstorm Soc. > I wonder if people like Augie Auer, Jim Hickey would be interested as > sponsors??? > ie. TVNZ or TV3? > Bob and I are keen to hear from other weather observers around New Zealand. > I don't know about others members in the MetSoc. I could send an email to > Tony Trewinnard of BlueSkies Weather or that guy that runs > WeatherWorkshop??? > Tony Trewinnard, an excellent forecaster, I think, is keen to do his own > thing! > Bob McDavitt, the so called Weather Ambassodor of MetService may know of a > few contacts? > Hey! Lets organize ??? > The weather has been so boring lately until the recent weather 'snaps' > Hope more follow! > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:44:24 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara <jdeguara at ihug.com.au> Subject: Re: aus-wx: AMOS Meeting - Warm-Season Supercells Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I will see what I can do regards that. Perhaps you could e-mail him direct to encourage him to post the manuscript. I will otherwise try and hassle him on that. Jimmy Deguara At 08:37 15/06/00 +0930, you wrote: > >The program includes announcements, the current weather situation and > >forecasts for the week. The main seminar will be on "Warm-Season Supercell > >Thunderstorms in Australia", by Dr. Andrew Treloar (full details on next > >page). > >Jimmy > >Any chance for us non Sydney residents to find the transcript of this >seminar after it's delivered? I assume it will appear somewhere, if not on >the web, then in a journal somewhere. It sounds important. > >Phil 'Paisley' Bagust >paisley at cobweb.com.au >http://www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- Jimmy Deguara from Schofields, Sydney President of Australian Severe Weather Association Inc. (ASWA) http://severeweather.asn.au e-mail: jdeguara at ihug.com.au homepage with Michael Bath note new URL http://australiasevereweather.com/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: paulmoss at tpgi.com.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:47:09 +0930 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Balmy Blue Mountains X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Dont know about that Lindsay with the weather we have had lately!! As one Darwin resident said - refreshing. We even had showers last night as this "mid level" trough dragged some moisture in. Not much in the guage - but enough to have people talking about how unusual the season has really been............. By the way - our Wet season finished in at 9th decile - approx 2200mm or more. Which really is quite good considering that there were really only 3 or 4 bursts of "active" monsoonal acitivity - most was normal nocturnal thunderstorms. Paul in Darwin. On 15 Jun 00, at 16:08, Lindsay wrote: < snip > > Put me in Darwin though, and I'd be sweating for sure! > > > Lindsay Pearce > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Anthony Spierings" <as029 at bigpond.net.au> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com> Subject: aus-wx: Record temp. in USA causes power outage Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 21:35:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com While we shiver, the USA West Coast is having an early taste of summer. With a few unscheduled generating outages one power company had to resort to rotational load shedding. http://www.cnn.com/2000/WEATHER/06/15/temperatures/ Regards, Anthony Spierings +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------