From: "John Woodbridge" <jrw at pixelcom.net>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fairy Dell Tornado F rating (was mini tornadoes)
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:43:46 +1000
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Excerpt from "Climates & Weather Explained" by Edward Linacre & Bart Geerts:
F0 - Light: tree branches broken, sign boards damaged
F1 - Moderate: trees snapped, windows broken
F2 - Heavy: large trees uprooted, weak structures destroyed
F3 - Severe: trees levelled, cars & mobile homes overturned
F4 - Devastating: timber frame house walls levelled, roofs lifted
F5 - Incredible: brick homes levelled, cars & trees moved over 100m
A "weak structure" typically refers to outbuildings such as sheds,
barns and so forth. I was not aware of the Post Office damage,
as obviously the Merrett drama overshadowed all else as far as the
local media here goes.
But based on this, I'd really lean towards F3. Strictly it is F4 damage,
but I would have to make some allowance for the age of the building and
thus, construction standards.
I see no reason to underrate the damage.
John.
>snip
John, Anthony & others,
Whilst it may be reasonable to determine that the damage to the Merrett
house is probably in the order of F1, The extent of damage to the former
Fairy Dell Post Office is somewhat greater (ref. page 1 Bendigo Advertiser
24/6/00). This building was completely flattened. Admittedly this building
was of timber frame construction, and probably of a reasonable age (perhaps
1920s). Also of note is the damage to trees adjacent to this building - they
are just a tangled mess with some completely uprooted. It is my opinion that
this damage is probably in the order of F2 at least.
Regards,
Rod Aikman
42 Panton St.
Golden Square 3555
Bendigo Vic
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From: "Les Crossan" <les.crossan at virgin.net>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fairy Dell Tornado F rating (was mini tornadoes)
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:34:53 +0100
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From: John Woodbridge <jrw at pixelcom.net>
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> Hi Anthony,
>
> Well yes there are many problems with the F scale
Time to add my 1/2 euro's worth. The F-scale is windspeed calculated from
the the damage it causes - therefore an F3 demolishing a wooden shack may
not cause F3 damage to a reinforced concrete bunker!
btw you cannot calculate straight line windspeed in a tornado event as it's
essentially a vortex, you'd have to work out the vector components (i
think), is this correct Anthony???
> and I am not convinced that the T scale is much better. I think
> Fujita's view was that the best estimate of a Tornadoes strength
> was the worst damage caused
The Torro (T) scale is an extrapolation of the Beaufort Scale - measured
windspeed causing damage - therefore an F3 may only make T3 or may be T7 if
there was some way of measuring the windspeed. This problem will be resolved
once and for all once tornadic wind velocities have been resolved by doppler
radar or whatever. 99% of the world uses the Fujita Scale it's only us folk
in the UK that use the Torro Scale....
Les Lemon - got anything on this????
Les (UK)
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I was having another look at Ira's great tornado photos and one thing
really stands out with the up close photo of the Pearce tornado, and that
is the background of clear blue sky, with the sun visible through the
tornado! I have never seen such a tornado photo before - it is really quite
amazing. Perhaps along with the amazing Northam tornado, WA might snare a
reputation as providing, if not the most powerful tornadoes, at least some
of the most unusual and spectacular looking (I know that is very
subjective, but still...).
Has anyone else seen such a tornado photo, with blue skies and sun before?
Cheers,
a frustrated Tom in Wisconsin who's just seen the last three severe weather
fronts pass just south of here and is sick of seeing so much rain without a
decent payoff...
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From: "W.A. (Bill) Webb" <billwebb at tpgi.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Sunrise/sunset photos
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:30:13 +1000
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'Day list,
Eventually, but too late for the competition, got some sun photos up from
all around the place (NO cities).
address is
http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/billwebb/sunrise.htm
a couple of them were up before.
Also, at
http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/billwebb/strange.htm
a couple of photos of a "change in light" in the sky - I have no idea what
might have caused it. Explanations welcome !
Regards,
Bill, Proserpine.
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From: "MSC" <cadence at rubix.net.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Fairy Dell tornado
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:11:20 +1000
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Quick note from BoM Severe Weather (Tony Bannister) - re the Fairy Dell
tornado
--------------------------------------------
Jane,
quick note on last Thursday.
Two separate tornadoes that happened at about the same time, just after 5pm.
The Rochester one was about 8km long, 50-100m wide, lasted on the ground
about
10 minutes moving at 50km/h on a bearing of 280 degrees. Damage in the
F1/low
end F2 region (150-200km/h gusts).
Kyabram about 4km long, lasted about 5minutes on the ground, all the other
data
similar.
cheers
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............official thoughts to this time.
Jane
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From: "Phil Smith" <drdisk at hktrade.com>
To: "Michael Thompson" <michaelt at ozemail.com.au>,
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fwd: "mini-tornado" and "Willy-willies"
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 07:13:41 +0800
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Actually the HK media don't need to learn from the Oz media how to really
stuff up weather reporting:
check out our Forum at http://www.weather.org.hk/discus/messages/1/1.html
for a constant stream of complaints from our WXHK enthusiasts about the
never-ending stream of media stuff-ups. Not so long ago it was reported
that "the Strong Amber Thunderstorm Warning is Hoisted" which may not seem
amusing until you realise that HKO "hoists" Typhoon Signals or the Strong
Monsoon Signal, while it "issues" the Thunderstorm Warning or the Amber, Red
or Black Rainstorm Warnings. So the above report had combined parts of no
less than four different unrelated weather warnings/signals. It is a
miracle if anyone could figure out what was hoisted/issued from the above
phrase.
But perhaps the best was when one report was apologising for a previous
stuff-up and ended with the line "All inconvenience is thoroughly
appreciated"
At least the Oz media is not working from an English as a second language
position.
Phil
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Thompson" <michaelt at ozemail.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>; "Phil Smith" <drdisk at hktrade.com>
Sent: Monday, 26 June 2000 16:55
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fwd: "mini-tornado" and "Willy-willies"
> Maybe the Hong Kong media can benefit from Australian insight and start
> using the term mini typhoon.
>
> Could not resist.
>
> Remember folks don't get to passionate about the mini debate, enjoy it
for
> what it is, debate the issues never the person posting.
>
> Michael
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Carl Smith <carls at ace-net.com.au>
> To: Aussie Weather List <aussie-weather at world.std.com>; Phil Smith
> <drdisk at hktrade.com>
> Sent: Monday, 26 June 2000 3:55
> Subject: aus-wx: Fwd: "mini-tornado" and "Willy-willies"
>
>
> > Hi All.
> >
> > I thought I would forward this email from my brother Phil in Hong Kong
> > regarding the tornado posts - I have forwarded several of them to him.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Carl.
> >
> > >From: "Phil Smith" <drdisk at hktrade.com>
> > >To: "Carl Smith" <carls at ace-net.com.au>
> > >Subject: "mini-tornado" and "Willy-willies"
> > >Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:35:14 +0800
> > >Organization: Doctor Disk
> >
> > <snip>
> > >
> > >The arguments about "mini-tornado" are very interesting.
> > >When I was a kid in the 50's tornadoes were almost universally known as
> > >"willy-willies" the only trouble with that being that some
less-informed
> > >people referred to Dust Devils as "Willy-willies". Our grandpa
however,
> > >always used the term "tornado".
> > >Tornadoes have always been common in Australia, but in the days of
early
> > >settlement, the settlers always asked the aboriginal people to advise
> where
> > >a town or farm could be built so that the tornadoes would miss it. We
> > >always understood this to be the reason that so few people were killed
by
> > >them in Oz compared to the US.
> > >A tornado that clears a few trees and pinches a few dozen hay bales
does
> not
> > >make for tremendously exciting reading for the average bloke, so the
> > >majority that occurred in Oz were never reported on any further than
the
> > >local pub.
> > >There used to be an old aboriginal bloke out at Framlingham (South West
> > >Victoria) when I was a kid that used to be brought out whenever anyone
> was
> > >subdividing a property to advise the surveyors on safe places to build
> the
> > >new houses. He made a few bob out of it and probably some thought he
was
> a
> > >con artist, but he was always called out when needed back around the
> start
> > >of the fifties. I wish I could remember his name and a few more
details.
> > >It would make a good book/film.
> > >
> > >Phil
> > ><><
> > >
> >
> >
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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 01:18:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mario Paul <stormtwist at yahoo.com>
Subject: aus-wx: bill's weird sky
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Hi all. The weird sky is caused by a thunderstorm
over
the horizon.The storm is to the right of the
picture.The top part of the storm is blocking the
light from the setting sun from reaching the viewer's
vision.
I have seen this effect many times in my life.
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>
> http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/billwebb/strange.htm
>
> a couple of photos of a "change in light" in the sky - I have no idea what
> might have caused it. Explanations welcome !
>
I'll have a stab at this one.
I think all you are seeing here is just a shadow effect caused by the
Earth, ie the darker section being the shadow. Since you're in Proserpine,
you would see the sun rise in the southeast during summer. This would mean
that the edge of Earth's shadow would be aligned southwest->northeast.
Hence, when you look to the SW, you see the edge of the shadow. This
shadow is only visible with the sun below the horizon, since it is
opposite the sun in the sky. As a result, I'm guessing the Moon would've
been a few days past full Moon since it is outside this shadow.
If you want to see this effect for yourself, check out
http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/uncgi/Earth
THEN make the following alterations to the data beneath the map:
Display : set to Map.
Time: set to UTC and type in '2000/01/27 19:30:00'
and then click update.
The shadow of the earth should run through Queensland, oriented SW->NE.
Click on OZ for a closeup.
The visibility of this effect is dependent upon the particulate matter in
the air and moisture. The more that is present, the more the light will be
reflected from these particles, and hence brighten the lit portion of sky.
This has the effect of increasing the contrast between the darker region
and lighter region, and thus making the edge stand out.
Cheers
--
Robert A. Goler
E-mail robert at mail.maths.monash.edu.au
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Monash University
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Australia
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Hi,
Some people on the list may recall that we had an AMOS Weatherwatch meeting
here when a person called Dr John J Lowke discussed his theories on ball
lightning and also step leaders. Due to the overwhelming requests on this
list and also ASWA members, I decided to approach him for permission to
have the papers associated with his theories put on the internet if it
wasn't there already. He has given me the consent to do so. Please respect
his copyright on these articles and do not reproduce them please.
I think you will find it interesting reading as his theories are quite well
thought. There are many other theories on ball lightning but none have yet
been accepted or proven to my knowledge. Don't get too entangled with the
simple mathematics he uses. He was trying to make it simple anyway!
Visit
http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/index.html
and go down to the two separate links
A Theory of the Stepped Leader in Lightning by Dr John J Lowke
A Theory of Ball Lightning as an Electric Discharge by Dr John J Lowke
Please enjoy. I apologise for the size of each page but scanning was the
most efficient way so as to not make mistakes and so on.
Jimmy Deguara
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note new URL
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Subject: aus-wx: Aurora Alert
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Hello weather entheusiasts...I thought people on this list may be interested
in the following aurora alert issued this morning from IPS Radio and Space
Services. It may indeed be a false alarm but it is worth keeping an eye
out..Unfortunately, it's a littlbe bit out of date but keep your eyes out
because we are only just past the peak of the solar max and there should be
some good chances over the next few months of seeing one:
SUBJ: IPS AURORA ALERT
ISSUED AT 1519 UT on 26 Jun 2000 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
FROM THE AUSTRALIAN SPACE FORECAST CENTRE
GEOMAGNETIC STORM IN PROGRESS. AURORA MAY BE OBSERVED
DURING LOCAL NIGHT TIME HOURS IN GOOD OBSERVING CONDITIONS
AT HIGH LATITUDE REGIONS.
This alert is not subject to forecaster validation. It is
automatically issued from autoscaled data which may produce
a false alarm on rare occasions.
IPS would appreciate any feedback from people observing an
aurora giving details of location and time. Please email to
asfc at ips.gov.au
More information about IPS Aurora Alerts can be found on
Web page www.ips.gov.au/mail-lists/aurora_alerts.html
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From: "Bill Webb" <billwebb at tpgi.com.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: bill's weird sky
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:56:12 +1000
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Hi Mario and List,
Major blunder on my part - photo is looking NORTH west at sunrise - has
since been corrected on page.
This does not negate that opinion though, Mario, thanks for responding. I
will check my weather records for the period for storms around, and check in
the future. Thanks for that. Maybe I should turn the date option ON on my
camera !
Regards,
Bill, Proserpine.
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Subject: aus-wx: bill's weird sky
>
> Hi all. The weird sky is caused by a thunderstorm
> over
> the horizon.The storm is to the right of the
> picture.The top part of the storm is blocking the
> light from the setting sun from reaching the viewer's
> vision.
> I have seen this effect many times in my life.
> cya! stormtwist
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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:12:21 +1000
From: MSC - Jane ONeill <cadence at rubix.net.au>
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Sigh...it's winter, GST time, and we take to reading forecasts like this
and thinking.....just, maybe......btw, what's happening in Adelaide
tonight????
I've included a 'translation into English' for those of you who may not
spend much of your spare time reading the aviation forecasts, but would
like to understand them rather more before the 'season' starts.
If you are interested in learning more about the language &
abbreviations that are used have a look at the following site, very
detailed, but very useful.
Federal Meteorological Handbook No 1
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/oso/oso1/oso12/fmh1/fmh1toc.htm
-----------------------------------------------
AREA30 08:25 UTC, 27/06/2000
AMEND AREA FORECAST 270900 TO 272300 AREAS 30/32
Interpretation: forecast for the areas covered by areas 30 & 32 (pretty
much Victoria (30) & Bass Strait (32))
Valid: 7pm 27th June to 9am 28th June. Issued at 6.25pm 27/6/2000
AMD OVERVIEW:
TROUGH FCST NEAR HAY/FLIKI AT 11Z, ALBURY/FLINDERS ISLAND AT 17Z,
DELEGATE AT 23Z. FRONT FCST NEAR PORTLAND AT 16Z, HORSHAM/KING ISLAND
AT 21Z. ISOL RA E OF TROUGH. ISOL TSRA WITH FRONT.
Interpretation: Trough forecast to be located between Mildura to a point
midway between Flinders & King Islands at 9pm, Albury to Flinders Is
3am, Delegate at 9am. Front following is forecast to be located near
Portland 2am, located between Horsham & King Is 7am. Isolated
thunderstorms with rain with front.
<snip unexciting bits>
ISOL CB 3500/25000 WITH FRONT.
Interpretation: Isolated cumulonimbus base 3,500', tops to 25,000' with
the front.
<snip unexciting bits>
OCNL CU TOPS 15000 WITH FRONT.
Interpretation: Occasional cumulus tops to 15,000' with the front.
BKN ACAS 10000/20000, SCT W OF FRONT.
Interpretation: broken altocumulus / altostratus between 10,000' &
20,000', becoming scattered west of front.
AMD WEATHER:
TSRA, FG, RA, SHRA.
Interpretation: Thunderstorms with rain, fog, rain, showers of rain.
<snip unexciting bits>
Jane
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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 04:37:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mario Paul <stormtwist at yahoo.com>
Subject: aus-wx: correction
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About bill's strange sky. I totally forgot about the
full moon, so obviously the sun is not setting, but
rising! So that shoots my theory down in flames. But I
have seen this effect from storms over the
horizon,only
this time I don't know what the light source is. Maybe
a large bonfire?!!!! hehe
cya stormtwist
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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:41:26 +1000
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From: Jimmy Deguara <jdeguara at ihug.com.au>
Subject: Re: aus-wx: bill's weird sky
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Hi Bill,
I would advise against putting time stamps on photographs which is what I
did before. I think the best way is to carry a little note book with the
camera and note the time and place the photograph was taken and perhaps the
direction if you feel up to it and know it. I also encourage others to do
this as it can always come in handy when a feature may be discovered. It
could be a tornadic storm you photographed only to find out later. This
information is extremely important.
Great photos by the way!!!
Jimmy Deguara
At 20:56 27/06/00 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi Mario and List,
>
>Major blunder on my part - photo is looking NORTH west at sunrise - has
>since been corrected on page.
>
>This does not negate that opinion though, Mario, thanks for responding. I
>will check my weather records for the period for storms around, and check in
>the future. Thanks for that. Maybe I should turn the date option ON on my
>camera !
>
>Regards,
>Bill, Proserpine.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Mario Paul <stormtwist at yahoo.com>
>To: weather <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 06:18 PM
>Subject: aus-wx: bill's weird sky
>
>
> >
> > Hi all. The weird sky is caused by a thunderstorm
> > over
> > the horizon.The storm is to the right of the
> > picture.The top part of the storm is blocking the
> > light from the setting sun from reaching the viewer's
> > vision.
> > I have seen this effect many times in my life.
> > cya! stormtwist
>
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:09:37 +1200
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From: John Gaul <nzts.nz at caverock.net.nz>
Subject: aus-wx: Baroclonic Leap!
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Well it looks as thought the baroclonic leaf is not going to deliver over
Northland but then..
you may expect a 'mini-tornado or 2 " ...
John Gaul
Nz Thunderstorm Soc
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>Sigh...it's winter, GST time, and we take to reading forecasts like this
>and thinking.....just, maybe......btw, what's happening in Adelaide
>tonight????
Rather woozy frontal band passing over as I type [9.45pm CST]. Still,
there's some cold air action forecast for the morrow.
Just wish we'd start getting some day frontal passages!
>From a pretty sodden Adelaide
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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:27:43 +1000
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From: Jimmy Deguara <jdeguara at ihug.com.au>
Subject: Re: aus-wx: bill's weird sky
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The photo is an interesting one Bill.
First to note the photos were taken at a very similar time - perhaps within
a few minutes as one is just zoomed in. This is why the the moon appears in
one and not the other
http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/billwebb/strange.htm
It seems that there is a cumulonimbus off the coast casting a shadow right
through to the NW since the sun rises to the SE.
Jimmy Deguara
At 20:56 27/06/00 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi Mario and List,
>
>Major blunder on my part - photo is looking NORTH west at sunrise - has
>since been corrected on page.
>
>This does not negate that opinion though, Mario, thanks for responding. I
>will check my weather records for the period for storms around, and check in
>the future. Thanks for that. Maybe I should turn the date option ON on my
>camera !
>
>Regards,
>Bill, Proserpine.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Mario Paul <stormtwist at yahoo.com>
>To: weather <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 06:18 PM
>Subject: aus-wx: bill's weird sky
>
>
> >
> > Hi all. The weird sky is caused by a thunderstorm
> > over
> > the horizon.The storm is to the right of the
> > picture.The top part of the storm is blocking the
> > light from the setting sun from reaching the viewer's
> > vision.
> > I have seen this effect many times in my life.
> > cya! stormtwist
>
>
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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:58:46 +1000
From: David Carroll <davidkc at nia.net.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Bathurst - Rain
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HI All,,
Where else is getting very heavy rain like Bathurst is getting right
now.
Radar showing scattered around Bathurst,, It is bucketing down here.
Dave
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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:25:09 +0800
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Subject: aus-wx: a Fogged in Perth 50M visibility
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Hi all a quick email at 21:10 WST about the fog here, it went from just
forming on the drive to Mac'D's, to 50 M visibility in less than 30 mins
.... so it formed very quick and this is in the less susuptable areas.
My mate disco called over just before writing this email well he was
here when i got back from Mac'D's he had to drive at less than 5 Km/H it
was that thick and low already ( this in the less prone area's too ).
Let alone what it is going to be like in the more prone area's... So it
could make for an intresting morning :):) Fog Pictures here i come.
MJ.
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