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12.50am 16/08
At 12.30am, light snow falling at Mt Lambie 30km east Of Bathurst.
Report came from Police in Bathurst. NO snow settling as yet.
Dave
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Subject: aus-wx: Snow - Bathurst - Roads
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6am 16/08.
HI all.
Snowing in Bathurst at this time. Not settling. All Roads Currently open
from Bathurst to Lithgow and Bathurst -Oberon.
Portland near Lithgow has 2 inches of snow.
Dave / Bathurst. NSW
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morning all,
Wollongong 6:40am EST,
Cold Sw winds blowing this morning, with snow a distinct possibility on the Illawarra Escarpment if the wind turns a little E of S. A few photogenic coldies off the coast east of Nowra looked good. But definately snow in the air.
Waiting for the winds to turn with the development of the ECL off the far NSW south coast.
Andrew Godsman
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7.45am 16/08.
Roads from Bathurst to Lithgow closed. Trucks unable to climb hill at Mt
Lambie.
Mid Western Hwy from Bathurst to Blayney, thick snow roads maybe closed
soon.
Snowing in Orange at this time.
Dave
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:50:15 -0700
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Blackheath: Wednesday 8:50am
Temp -1
Light snow has been pretty much continual since 6:30am this morning.
It's interesting snow, as its very small, like polystyrene (sp?) beads
out of a bean bag, say only a few mm at most in size. Only a light
accumulation at this stage.
It's a little heavier now as I look out the window.
Thanks for the road reports Dave, we appreciate it.
Lindsay Pearce
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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Leopold (south coast Vic)0945 16.08.00.
Bulk of cold air passed through central Victoria between 1200 and 2200hrs
Tues, coldest air accompanied a thermal trough about mid afternoon, snow
reported across the central Vic ranges to about 450m and most places
received hail.Marked warming occurred after 0200 Wed and at 0900 my temp had
reached 10c after sitting on about 5c most of Tues pm.Still some nice very
low vertical extent cbs about with showers, pressure 1021. Have a nice snow
play day.
regards Clyve H.
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> Blackheath: Wednesday 8:50am
>
> Temp -1
>
> Light snow has been pretty much continual since 6:30am this morning.
> It's interesting snow, as its very small, like polystyrene (sp?) beads
> out of a bean bag, say only a few mm at most in size. Only a light
> accumulation at this stage.
>
> It's a little heavier now as I look out the window.
>
> Thanks for the road reports Dave, we appreciate it.
>
> Lindsay Pearce
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Hi to all, 9.30am 16/8/00
Recovering from 21st celebrations i was a good 1 Hour late for work,
soon to be 2 Hours when noticing the nice looking towers off the coast. By
this stage i was approaching Bondi and had a fairly good idea that what i
would see wouldnt dissapoint!
With an air temp of around 8 degrees and a nice cold pool of air in
the upper layers the cb's i saw couldnt be your usual. Although fairly
small, they had very well defined high bases with a very nice curtain of
rain behind them and a developing anvil, which i might add has moved in a
westward direction since(11am). With hopes up high i purchased a camera in a
dodgey convience store across the road(lets hope it works!)and continued to
wait for any developments. At around 9.45am the first of a funnel shaped
column emerged from the storms northern base followed by a further 3 more in
a line behind it. Unfortunately this storm (or storms) was/were a little too
far out to guarantee all 4 spouts, Definately 1 though!
Anyway, film is getting developed as i speak. Will put photos up on
the list this evening.
I must confess that the AGM has inspired me to be patient and pay alot
more attention to whats going on, special thanks to Clive, Jane, Jimmy and
Anthony as well as to all those with inspiring stories-all of u!!
COULD BE AN INTERESTING ARVO, SQUALLY SHOWERS ON THE WAY.
REGARDS
JAMES P.
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:38:01 +1000
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Wollongong 1136 EST
Actually some nice mamma clouds going over just to the east of
Wollongong at the moment, from a few coldies over the sea by the looks
of the radar.
I fear that the low has choofed off to the east too quickly taking any
action Wollongong or the escarpment might have got with it.
Andrew.
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> morning all,
>
> Wollongong 6:40am EST,
> Cold Sw winds blowing this morning, with snow a distinct possibility on the Illawarra Escarpment if the wind turns a little E of S. A few photogenic coldies off the coast east of Nowra looked good. But definately snow in the air.
>
> Waiting for the winds to turn with the development of the ECL off the far NSW south coast.
>
> Andrew Godsman
>
> EOM
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:24:07 -0700
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Blackheath: Wednesday 11:15am (Written off-line)
Temp: 3
Winds: light southerly
The snow that fell across the Blue Mountains this morning seemed to be
heavier at Katoomba than here, even though we are roughly a hundred
metres higher in Blackheath. I guess that's not surpising considering
the more southward direction of the wind.
My partner caught the train to work and confirmed there was more snow on
the ground in Katoomba, at least that which she could see from the
station. As she arrived at Wentworth Falls station and walked up to the
Grammar School, she was hit by "Quite moderate to heavy snow, blowing
into my eyes and making it very hard to see." She also said that
Wentworth Falls had as much snow on the ground as Blackheath did, maybe
even more. She grew up in a family of doctors and scientists, so, she's
pretty good at making careful observations.
Maybe there was some credibility in the Channel Nine report this morning
(during the Today Show) that the snow was "Teeming down" in the Blue
Mountains. At least, it may have for a short period, in the areas I
mentioned but not here in Blackheath.
Cheers,
Lindsay Pearce
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The long-awaited Paraparap Tornado report by Clyve Herbert, Jane O'Neill
with help from a number of other sources, is now available at
www.stormchasers.au.com/paraindex.htm
or through GWS at
www.pipeline.com.au/users/gws
Hopefully the MSC page will have its link soon. My congratulations
especially to Clyve & Jane for this excellent and professionally-produced
piece of work, which was done in everyone's "spare time" and has just been
presented to the BoM. Lindsay Smail.
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Yesterday was cold to very, Cold Air Cbs where everywhere, very heavy
showers and small hail. Typical winters day here in Ballarat, close to
snowing, but no cigar.
No people:
Is a Cold Air Cell a true Thunderstorm????? Or is it just a large Cu tower;
congestous, that gets a bit to top heavy and a weak updraft, and as it falls
over forms a "anvil" apearance?
To the folks from the US of A, do you people get Cold Air Cbs??
Les
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Just a small question. If buildings were made of something really strong and
copped no apparent damage then what good would the Fujitsu scale be? How
would we know then that a tornado or whatever has been through? Not very
likely to happen, but anything is possible I suppose.
Bussy (NE Victoria)
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> Andrew McDonald wrote:
>
> > Just in relation to a comment made by Leslie.....
> >
> > "The funny thing is that the vast majority (> ~ 60%) of tornadoes that
> occur
> > even here in "Tornado Alley" are "weak" (winds 120 mph or less)"
> >
> > Let me see....120mph = 192km/h......I think that would successfully
> rearrange
> > the roof and maybe a wall or two of a house. I think its amusing what
> > Leslie terms as "weak" and what I/we would consider weak here. I was
out
>
> First, please understand that the value of "120 mph" was essentially off
> the top of my head, if you will. "Weak" tornadoes are classified as F0
and
> F1. Once again, this is a damage scale and not a wind speed scale. (I
> think we can all recite that in our sleep! <S>) So much is dependent on
> the structural integrity of that which was damaged, if indeed, there are
> structures to be damaged. If one looks at the *estimated* wind speeds to
> inflict F1 damage, it is less than about 113 mph.
>
> Having said this, my point was that here in the states we virtually NEVER
> hear the term "mini" used in relation to tornadoes. Those words just are
> not juxtaposed! There are a couple videos that come to my mind where in
> one sense the term "mini" might be thought to apply. In both those, there
> is actual condensation that reaches the ground but it is so slender that
it
> would appear "I could put my arms around it!" Needless to say, my arms
> would probably not weather the storm very well. I say that because one of
> these same very slender tornadoes could be seen to uproot trees and send
> them skyward as if they were rockets. Seeing that, I would never call
that
> a "mini". But, it would seem that no matter the intensity of tornadoes in
> Australia, the press will very nearly always view these as "minies". You
> have "fallen and you will never again get up". The press must carefully
> prevent that from happening! LOL
>
> Les
>
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Wollongong 1:50pm EST
Getting quite dark again along the coastal fringe. Winds picking up from the
S and getting quite strong and gusting. It will be interesting to have a
look at the radar and MSL analysis to see how far down the coast this ECL
formed. It may have been a little further north than first anticipated if
the wind direction is any guide. Finally, if the winds turn a fraction more
to come with a bit of E in it we should get some rain for Michael T's lawns
this afternoon.
Andrew Godsman
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>
> Wollongong 1136 EST
>
> Actually some nice mamma clouds going over just to the east of
> Wollongong at the moment, from a few coldies over the sea by the looks
> of the radar.
>
> I fear that the low has choofed off to the east too quickly taking any
> action Wollongong or the escarpment might have got with it.
>
> Andrew.
>
> "Godsman, Andrew AG" wrote:
> >
> > morning all,
> >
> > Wollongong 6:40am EST,
> > Cold Sw winds blowing this morning, with snow a distinct possibility on
> the Illawarra Escarpment if the wind turns a little E of S. A few
> photogenic coldies off the coast east of Nowra looked good. But definately
> snow in the air.
> >
> > Waiting for the winds to turn with the development of the ECL off the
> far NSW south coast.
> >
> > Andrew Godsman
> >
> > EOM
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EXCELLENT REPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It has been a long time in waiting, and what I have seen has been well
worth every day, great report, very simple and easy to understand, great
work to all who were involved.
Andrew Wall
At 11:58 AM 8/16/00 +1000, you wrote:
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>with help from a number of other sources, is now available at
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>
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>www.pipeline.com.au/users/gws
>
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>presented to the BoM. Lindsay Smail.
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All hale the start of the cricket season!!
I guess it's a good day to be under a roof in Melbourne but the other
day would have been better I'd reckon.
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 00:57:53 -0400
From: "Leslie R. Lemon" <lrlemon at compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mini/weak tornadoes
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Bussy wrote:
> Just a small question. If buildings were made of something really strong
and
> copped no apparent damage then what good would the Fujitsu scale be? How
> would we know then that a tornado or whatever has been through? Not very
> likely to happen, but anything is possible I suppose.
Not everything would be undamaged. If the structures are engineered, then
knowing what was *not* damaged or moved will help wind engineers to
determine the wind speed. But, if there is one structure and it is solidly
built and engineered, and goes undamaged, then you could determine a
maximum upper bound speed.
More often than not, tornadoes in the plains may pass over brush land, hay,
or wheat. Then it is simply listed with having an "unknown" intensity.
Les
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The forecast for the next 7 days in Adelaide sounds better than was expected
yesterday, basically the possibilty of a shower or showers every day!
Tomorrow sounds like the possible shower could tend to light rain. Anyway
you never know the forecast will probably change again, for the worse.
Although early next week sounds good with showers becoming widespread.
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>
> The forecast for the next 7 days in Adelaide sounds better than was expected
> yesterday, basically the possibilty of a shower or showers every day!
> Tomorrow sounds like the possible shower could tend to light rain. Anyway
> you never know the forecast will probably change again, for the worse.
> Although early next week sounds good with showers becoming widespread.
>
The most recent GASP and EC runs both look quite interesting for
around Monday/Tuesday next week, both with cold air pushing well
north, although they disagree about the evolution of the sequence
(GASP is a fairly conventional cold outbreak, EC develops into a
sprawling low over SE Australia). Both scenarios should be good for
the already exceptional ski season.
Blair Trewin
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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Hi Bussy.
The Fujita scale is based on American building standards and as no building
could ever match this standard to 100%, i.e due to variations in materials
etc ,even two lengths of timber from the same tree can vary in strengths
,but never the less the Fujita scale is as good as we can get to estimate
building resistance strengths and from which we can estimate wind speeds. In
respect to designing a building to withstand an F5 tornado the cost to the
builder would be prohibitive (unless we live underground) or if we design a
building with the structure of a Sherman tank ....even a Sherman tank can be
trashed by an F5 tornado!. regards Clyve H
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> Just a small question. If buildings were made of something really strong
and
> copped no apparent damage then what good would the Fujitsu scale be? How
> would we know then that a tornado or whatever has been through? Not very
> likely to happen, but anything is possible I suppose.
>
> Bussy (NE Victoria)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Leslie R. Lemon <lrlemon at compuserve.com>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 12:52 AM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mini/weak tornadoes
>
>
> > Andrew McDonald wrote:
> >
> > > Just in relation to a comment made by Leslie.....
> > >
> > > "The funny thing is that the vast majority (> ~ 60%) of tornadoes that
> > occur
> > > even here in "Tornado Alley" are "weak" (winds 120 mph or less)"
> > >
> > > Let me see....120mph = 192km/h......I think that would successfully
> > rearrange
> > > the roof and maybe a wall or two of a house. I think its amusing what
> > > Leslie terms as "weak" and what I/we would consider weak here. I was
> out
> >
> > First, please understand that the value of "120 mph" was essentially off
> > the top of my head, if you will. "Weak" tornadoes are classified as F0
> and
> > F1. Once again, this is a damage scale and not a wind speed scale. (I
> > think we can all recite that in our sleep! <S>) So much is dependent
on
> > the structural integrity of that which was damaged, if indeed, there are
> > structures to be damaged. If one looks at the *estimated* wind speeds
to
> > inflict F1 damage, it is less than about 113 mph.
> >
> > Having said this, my point was that here in the states we virtually
NEVER
> > hear the term "mini" used in relation to tornadoes. Those words just
are
> > not juxtaposed! There are a couple videos that come to my mind where in
> > one sense the term "mini" might be thought to apply. In both those,
there
> > is actual condensation that reaches the ground but it is so slender that
> it
> > would appear "I could put my arms around it!" Needless to say, my arms
> > would probably not weather the storm very well. I say that because one
of
> > these same very slender tornadoes could be seen to uproot trees and send
> > them skyward as if they were rockets. Seeing that, I would never call
> that
> > a "mini". But, it would seem that no matter the intensity of tornadoes
in
> > Australia, the press will very nearly always view these as "minies".
You
> > have "fallen and you will never again get up". The press must carefully
> > prevent that from happening! LOL
> >
> > Les
> >
> > ************************
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> > Tel. 816-373-3533, 816-213-3237
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Subject: aus-wx: w/spout --pictures..
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Taken this morning at around 9.45am from Bondi on wed 16/08/00.
Please excuse the Bad scanning job. Need a website also!!!!
Unfortunately only one of the water spouts can be seen. The photos are only
slightly clearer and even then thanx to the dodgey camera are hard to see.
The problem with this storm was the fact that it was too far out to sea
meaning that no-one really noticed it, cgs were evident if you watched it
closely and if you decided to watch even closer you would have seen the
water spouts which were really only visible for around five minutes. No
media coverage i dont think, just not as close and exciting as previous
ones............
The afternoon weather here was probably more exciting, it sure did close
in!!!
ENJOY
James
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Grin. Never got the attachment properly
Bussy
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Subject: aus-wx: w/spout --pictures..
> Taken this morning at around 9.45am from Bondi on wed 16/08/00.
>
> Please excuse the Bad scanning job. Need a website also!!!!
> Unfortunately only one of the water spouts can be seen. The photos are
only
> slightly clearer and even then thanx to the dodgey camera are hard to see.
> The problem with this storm was the fact that it was too far out to sea
> meaning that no-one really noticed it, cgs were evident if you watched it
> closely and if you decided to watch even closer you would have seen the
> water spouts which were really only visible for around five minutes. No
> media coverage i dont think, just not as close and exciting as previous
> ones............
> The afternoon weather here was probably more exciting, it sure did
close
> in!!!
>
> ENJOY
>
> James
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From: "MSC - Jane ONeill" <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
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Subject: aus-wx: MSC pics
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Evening all,
I've got a new toy - so I thought I'd put up some pics of yesterdays weather
in Melbourne
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/15_08_00.htm
Enjoy!!
Jane
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I live in North Katoomba & awoke around 7:45 am Wednesday to find around
2 cms of snow covering my garden / even more on the car & covering the
trees as there was no wind. It was zero degrees. From around 8:15 am it
was literally a blizzard of snow. Very heavy snow fell for around 15
minutes, it was small fine flakes but allot of them. The thing that
surprises me was how quickly it melted away after it stopped. By 9:30
most of the snow had melted away.
Tony
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From: paulmoss at tpgi.com.au
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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:13:31 +0930
Subject: aus-wx: Upcoming season - is it all relative?
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Howdy all.
Just wondering what the upcoming season holds for us all.
Looking back at the last 12 months - the abscence of Severe TS
last summer down south, a 9th Decile wet here - but lack of TC
activity, very busy TC season for NW WA, very wet QLD Summer.
What do YOU think will happen this summer?
PS Has anyone noticed the lack of Major hurricanes in the US
season this year! That or the media isnt bothered anymore - which
I doubt. Just seems curious - they had a very busy seaosn last
year - wonder if this could reflect here - very active & busy
supercell, tornadoe hits Sydney CBD type season?
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NOTICE OF AUGUST SCIENTIFIC MEETING
The next meeting of the AMOS Sydney Centre will be held on Wednesday 30
August, 2000
Venue: University of New South Wales
School of Physics
Room 27, Old Main Building
Parking is available on campus (for a fee),
but free parking on Barker St. is probably the best option.
The Old Main Building is opposite the Barker St. gate.
Time: 7:30 p.m. for a 7:45 p.m. start.
The program includes announcements, the current weather situation and
forecasts for the week. The main seminar will be on "Winter-time Antarctic
Voyage to the Mertz Glacier Polynia", by Dr. Neil Holbrook (full details on
next page).
Members are invited to join the speaker and committee any time after 6pm
for dinner at the highly recommended Mamma Teresa Italian Restaurant, 412
Anzac Pde. Kensington (one block south of UNSW walking distance!).
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WINTER-TIME ANTARCTIC VOYAGE TO THE
MERTZ GLACIER POLYNYA
Neil J Holbrook
Department of Physical Geography
Division of Environmental and Life Sciences
Macquarie University, Sydney NSW 2109
E-mail: Neil.Holbrook at mq.edu.au
In this presentation, I will discuss my experiences as an invited
participating oceanographer aboard the RSV Aurora Australis during the
1999 winter-time voyage near the Antarctic coast associated with the
Mertz Glacier Polynya Experiment. The Mertz Glacier Polynya is in the
vicinity of 66.5o-67oS, 145oE. The term "polynya" describes a "lake" in
the ice (or similar). Aside from the oceanographic component of the
Experiment, there were various other science programs on the voyage
including sea ice, sea ice and ocean thermal radiation, meteorology,
zooplankton/krill, phytoplankton/bacteria, dimethyl sulphide, whales,
seals, penguins, and birds. The main programs were the oceanography and
sea ice programs, while the other components were "piggy back" programs
(i.e., mostly opportunistic time on the voyage, rather than being
allocated dedicated time).
The interest for the oceanography program was understanding the production
rates of Antarctic Bottom Water (AABW) formation and its contribution to
the large (global) scale thermohaline circulation and climate. AABW is
formed at various locations around the perimeter of the Antarctic continent
under certain conditions and is the densest water in the world oceans. It
has a temperature close to the freezing point of sea water (at the given
salinity), between -1.8C and -1.9C and has a salinity of about 34.65 parts
per thousand (or practical salinity units (psu)). The Mertz Glacier Polynya
was considered to be an important source of AABW, with expected maximum
formation rates during winter-time. The importance of AABW is to ventilate
the deep ocean with oxygen (making the abyss more oxygenated than it would
otherwise be, important for biology), and to contribute to the large scale
thermohaline circulation, important for climate.
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Synopsis of Neil Holbrook's background
======================================
Neil is a physical oceanographer and has been a lecturer in atmospheric
science at Macquarie University, Sydney, Australia, since January 1996.
He completed his undergraduate degree at the University of Sydney (1986-88)
majoring in applied mathematics and marine sciences (physical oceanography)
and completed his Honours year in physical oceanography in 1989. He then
spent two months as a vacation scholar at the CSIRO Division of
Oceanography in Hobart, working with Andrew Forbes. After working for a
year as a research assistant for Prof Matthias Tomczak during 1990, Neil
commenced a PhD at the University of Sydney in physical oceanography in
1991.Dr Nathan Bindoff from the Antarctic CRC, at the University of
Tasmania, Hobart, was the primary influence on his PhD project and Neil has
continued to actively collaborate with Nathan since the completion of his
PhD in 1994.
After completion of his PhD, and prior to commencing as a lecturer at
Macquarie University, Neil worked as a postdoctoral researcher for Prof Ann
Henderson-Sellers in the Climatic Impacts Centre at Macquarie University
between October 1994 and January 1996. During this time, Neil was also
fortunate to be able to spend 3 months at the National Center for
Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado, working with Dr Bob
Chervin. Neil is an Honorary Research Associate in the Institute of
Antarctic and Southern Ocean Studies, University of Tasmania. Neil is also
a committee member (and past-Chair, 1998-99) of the Australian
Meteorological and Oceanographic Society Sydney Centre.
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Jimmy Deguara
Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
from
Schofields, Sydney
NSW Australia
e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au
Web Page with Michael Bath
Australian Severe Weather Home Page
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President of the Australian Severe Weather Association
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:05:44 +1000 (EST), Blair Trewin
<blair at earthsci.unimelb.edu.au> wrote:
>The most recent GASP and EC runs both look quite interesting for
>around Monday/Tuesday next week, both with cold air pushing well
>north, although they disagree about the evolution of the sequence
>(GASP is a fairly conventional cold outbreak, EC develops into a
>sprawling low over SE Australia). Both scenarios should be good for
>the already exceptional ski season.
The latest (00z) GASP continues to support the outbreak, so it's not a
one-run wonder. At 00z Wednesday, it has a cold pool <528 over eastern
Victoria, with 536 thickness and -2 850 temp well into northern NSW,
and plenty of precipitation across NSW and Vic, presumably from the
pre-frontal NWlys.
The latest (00z) MRF for Tuesday adds support, with strong ridging
well south of Tasmania and -3 to -6 850 temps surging across southern
WA/SA behind a 980hPa low west of Tasmania.
Laurier
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